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Old 31st July 2009, 05:41 PM
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So I don't know how common this is, but its probably the one things that's giving me the most problems right now.

As my various back issues have progressed, my upper body has become much more compact, and its reached point in the last year or two where my ribs are basically jammed up against the iliac crest of my pelvic bone. At first it was barely noticeable, but its continued to get worse and now is causing me huge amounts of discomfort and pain, and its becoming a 24/7 sort of relentless thing. This is the main thing that has pushed me over the edge and convinced me to go seek out treatment. ( And brought me here! )

I guess I was just wondering if this is common at all or if anyone here has to deal with this?

I have both scoliosis and kyphosis, but the scoliosis is relatively moderate and I think more of a side-effect of the kyphosis. I've scoured the web and I've only seen this mentioned a few times when discussing osteoporosis and scoliosis in the lumbar region, and usually in what would be considered "severe" cases. Since its never mentioned with typical kyphosis cases, it makes me worry and wonder if there are other things going on that I should know about.
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Old 31st July 2009, 07:52 PM
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I know i get the rib rubbing hip problem and its painful !
But hopefully this should go after surgery

Sorry about your pain
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Old 31st July 2009, 10:49 PM
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I had it with only a moderate thoracolumbar curvature. It was more due to the fact that I had a surgically induced (first surgery was done by a non-specialist - absolutely *not* to be recommended) kyphosis at the back of my waist, and when I then keeled forward in full blown flatback, sure enough, my ribs started grinding on my hip. I see no reason for it not to happen even with a fairly minor scoliosis, as long as the kyphosis is suitably shaped and positioned, so I wouldn't worry too much as it shouldn't make it unfixable or anything like that
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Old 1st August 2009, 12:19 AM
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Oh, I know exactly what you mean, the pain is terrible isn't it? I suffered with it before my surgery and it was the most debilitating pain All gone now though - completely and utterly gone
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Old 1st August 2009, 12:57 AM
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Hey, well I'm glad its not just me...

I think I struggle with it so much because a) its a very constant and relentless pain b) most of my other pain has been related to weak muscles or stiffness or things like that. I've always been able to manage those types of pain through exercise and staying active. The pain in my sides actually gets worse and much more tender with a lot of activity and exercise, and is like a double-edged sword... If I exercise it helps with some pain but makes others worse, if I don't exercise, it does the opposite.

Ugh! Its good to know that you guys were able to fix it for the most part. I'm not sure if surgery will be an option for me yet, but its good to know that options exist.
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Old 1st August 2009, 01:27 AM
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Hi Chris,

You're definitely not alone in this - lots of people with scoliosis and kyphosis get this sort of pain, and it's really not nice Although my lumbar curve (caused by malformed vertebrae) isn't that severe (well, I don't actually know the degree of the curvature, but it's not as severe as some i've seen), my left ribs grind on my pelvis. Mine is mainly due to the fact I have a shortened trunk because of the scoliosis and slight kyphosis, but it tends to onlyh be a problem if I sit for long periods, especially if i'm sitting 'straight' (i.e, not slouching to the right as my body does naturally), or if I walk without my shoe lift.

Yours seems to be quite a bad case if you're getting pain from it all the time - definitely tell the consultant this when you get your appointment. Do you have any decent painkillers to help you cope with it? If you haven't, tell your GP how much it is affecting you as there's meds that can help make things more bearable for you.
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Old 1st August 2009, 04:53 PM
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Hi there,

I'm really sorry you're in so much pain. I get it too (although thankfully not all the time) Mine seems to happen the same as Sally described it-after long periods of sitting. Goes away if I lean to the left or lie down though.

I hope you manage to get this sorted out.
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Old 1st August 2009, 07:38 PM
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Hi there,

I'm really sorry you're in so much pain. I get it too (although thankfully not all the time) Mine seems to happen the same as Sally described it-after long periods of sitting. Goes away if I lean to the left or lie down though.

I hope you manage to get this sorted out.
Yeah this is the same for me and its worse at school because none of the plastic chairs provide any support !
I find stretching can help with this pain
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Old 2nd August 2009, 09:02 PM
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I was wondering what painkillers people use to help with this? I've got it now (after driving) and it's huuuuurts!
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