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Old 2nd March 2005, 08:54 PM
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Over the last year or so, i have been feeling really tired all the time. I sleep about 8-10 hours a night. My tiredness seems to be in tow with my back/kyphosis getting worse.

Just wondering if anyone has any comments on this.

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Old 2nd March 2005, 09:09 PM
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You haven't said anything about pain, but I know from experience that pain or even discomfort (in fact, I would make argument for discomfort in some ways being worse than pain) can interrupt your sleep enough that you need more sleep to get the same amount of rest, so if it's gone hand in hand with the curves increasing, that could be part of the reason.
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Old 2nd March 2005, 09:13 PM
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Yeah, pain is pretty constant. No moreso at night. My sleep seems of a good quality when i can actually get to sleep.
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Old 2nd March 2005, 09:40 PM
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just had my blood drawn at the doctors because I've got real bad headaches every once in a while, and he thinks it might be shortage of iron, which causes almost constant tiredness
But I've read somewhere that people with scoliosis get more tired and need more sleep because apparantly we have to use more of our energy to stand up and all. I don't know if I'm making any sense, it's hard to explain in english
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Old 2nd March 2005, 09:47 PM
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Phil I have always been convinced that scoliosis does make you tired. I know its not just the bad lung function in my case but having stuff in the wrong place can't be easy on your body. Plus there is the whole stress thing so just try to get whatever rest you can. Its a great coping thing too.
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Old 2nd March 2005, 10:33 PM
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I'd have to agree with amazed.I think from the age of 16 I always felt so tired/run down.I could sleep for hours on end and still feel wrecked.
get a thorough check up with your gp and ask for a thyroid function test.Many patients with spinal curvature may have slightly underactive thyroid and this can cause those symptoms.I also think stress is a major factor in tiredness.I always joke about wanting to hibernate in winter,perhaps we're just very dependant on sunshine for that melatonin kick I don't think there's anything very much wrong with you.Sorry to hear that you're in so much pain.Do you have Scheuermann's kyphosis or postural kyphosis?
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Old 3rd March 2005, 12:04 AM
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Scheuermanns kyphosis. I have had blood tests, thyroid test etc about 6 months back. GP tends not to be too helpful at all.
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Old 3rd March 2005, 12:15 AM
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Phil,

In my own case I was dagnosed with an underactive thyroid when i was 17.. when its not under control then i could sleep all day and still wake up tired. it may be a case of anaemia too .. in which a pharmacist could maybe even recommend a supplement to take for a while, see if it makes any difference.

but keep pushing the doctor til you get answers ... eventually they will listen.

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Old 3rd March 2005, 12:33 AM
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i'm allways feeling tired but i think its because i'm not getting enough sleep
last night my back was hurting so much i didnt fall asleep untill 5am and i didnt get up untill 3pm
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I always have fatigue and pain is a source I guess, I hope you figure something out!
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Old 3rd March 2005, 05:27 AM
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Phil, I just thought of something I didn't get until almost too late. It is perfectly fine to say I'm tired and I need a nap. Then go take a nap complete with jammies and your pillow and room darkened whatever lets you totally rest. Scoliosis does wear on you. Take the nap. You aren't like everyone else.
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Old 3rd March 2005, 12:55 PM
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I find it hard to get to sleep on a night but once i am asleep thats it a nuclear blast can not wake me.

I am in pain most of the time which gets worse steadily as the day gets on the pain is right up spine from the bottom of back to my shoulders i also have a chest pain.

I tend to sleep on my side as if i lie on my back i get the sensation of drowning and start to get panic attacks which i have suffered from since childhood.

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And, of course, we can't overlook the obvious. Kyphosis puts pressure on the lungs, and 62 degrees isn't exactly a mild case. You should have a pulmonary consult to assess your lung function.

Can you describe your tiredness? You say you sleep 8 to 10 hours a night... so is it just a feeling of being run down? How do you feel about jogging/running? Are you bothered when you encounter a set of stairs? What happens when you exert yourself physically?
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Old 3rd March 2005, 10:49 PM
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I always seem to feel a bit tired too. As far as I've been told, I shouldn't have reduced lung capacity as my ribcage apparently is shaped quite well (I guess you could say that :P)

Anyway, do you think there is also a connection between my scoliosis and how I can't breathe worth anything when I run or do physical activity? Other than that I'm pretty much fine. I just have to take a big breath now and then.
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In my case, I can't take a big breath. Physically, it's impossible. I equate it to putting a tight steel band around someone's chest that restrict's their breath to about 1/3 of what they normally would take, and then telling them to go about their day. They would have to breathe faster and shallower all day long just to do the normal things. Just sitting still, it's not a problem. But when you have to do something like run, which increases your body's demand for oxygen, it leaves you panting for air. It's a horrible feeling, like you're suffocating.

But my lung capacity is severely restricted. With mild impairment, it probably isn't even very noticeable consciously, but you still may be working a lot harder than "normal" people (or even harder than you used to before your curve progressed) to keep your body supplied with oxygen without realizing it. That could leave you pretty tired by the end of the day.

The best way to find out is to have a consult with a respiratory/pulmonary specialist.
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