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Old 24th April 2014, 05:05 PM
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Hi guys, I've been exercising a lot lately and I developed lots of muscles on my back. I'm 21, with kyphosis. Not quite sure if I have a postural kyphosis. I've never done an x-ray to examine my curvature degree. That's why I wanted to ask if one of you guys would know to give an assumption about "what's my degree of my curve ?" I'm thinking about 60 or 75 ? But I have no idea. Please I need some answers, would appreciate it. I know we got some great professionals on this forum. Thanks.

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Old 25th April 2014, 10:28 AM
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Hi Innocent, thanks for your request for help but I'm really sorry, I can't help you much I'm not a professional and nor do I have the training to look at a curve from the outside and try to work out what degree it might be - especially where kyphosis is concerned, as I don't have as much experience with that as with scoliosis. If you have any x-rays there are a few of us here who can try to measure your Cobb Angle from those, but again we are all amateurs and cannot guarantee how accurate we'd be.

Hopefully someone with Kyphosis here will be able to help estimate the degree of your curvature by comparing their own case to yours. All I can say is that compared to others that I have seen here, your curve looks a lot milder than many. Can you straighten the curve out simply by making yourself sit up straight? If so, it could well be a postural curve and physio might help you a lot. In any case, most curves do have some postural element so building up strength in your back can be very helpful with the way things look cosmetically (just be careful not to overdo things, as spinal curvatures can make it easier to injure discs etc).

Really sorry I can't help more

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Old 25th April 2014, 02:55 PM
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Hi Innocent, thanks for your request for help but I'm really sorry, I can't help you much I'm not a professional and nor do I have the training to look at a curve from the outside and try to work out what degree it might be - especially where kyphosis is concerned, as I don't have as much experience with that as with scoliosis. If you have any x-rays there are a few of us here who can try to measure your Cobb Angle from those, but again we are all amateurs and cannot guarantee how accurate we'd be.

Hopefully someone with Kyphosis here will be able to help estimate the degree of your curvature by comparing their own case to yours. All I can say is that compared to others that I have seen here, your curve looks a lot milder than many. Can you straighten the curve out simply by making yourself sit up straight? If so, it could well be a postural curve and physio might help you a lot. In any case, most curves do have some postural element so building up strength in your back can be very helpful with the way things look cosmetically (just be careful not to overdo things, as spinal curvatures can make it easier to injure discs etc).

Really sorry I can't help more

Toni xx

Thanks for your answer. It's okay, I understand. Hopefully someone around here sees this and gives me a true estimation.

In terms of staying straight, I also think my kyphosis is postural because when I stay chest up as much as I can - no one can able to detect that I actually have kyphosis, because it looks straight(at least in my eyes). I also don't feel no pain on my middle kyphotic back. Only if I stay so much sitted somewhere then the pain goes down my lumbar lordocit area. I guess that's normal. But I'll make a picture and I'll show you how it looks when I stay straight. Thanks again.
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Old 26th April 2014, 12:16 PM
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Hi there

There are quite a few of us on here that can make a decent estimation of scoliosis curvature from an X-ray, less so for kyphosis though I'm afraid and unfortunately it's not really possible from just a photo Some of our members with kyphosis might be able to give you a rough idea by comparing their own case with yours, so hopefully they'll drop by soon
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Old 26th April 2014, 04:25 PM
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Hi there

There are quite a few of us on here that can make a decent estimation of scoliosis curvature from an X-ray, less so for kyphosis though I'm afraid and unfortunately it's not really possible from just a photo Some of our members with kyphosis might be able to give you a rough idea by comparing their own case with yours, so hopefully they'll drop by soon
Thanks for your comment. Hopefully other members with kyphosis are still using this site
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Old 26th April 2014, 04:37 PM
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There are some out there, honest! It's been pretty quiet for the last couple of weeks because of the Easter hols, but hopefully you will get some input soon

P.S. None of us are professionals, just volunteers with lots of experience between us
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Old 26th April 2014, 05:25 PM
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There are some out there, honest! It's been pretty quiet for the last couple of weeks because of the Easter hols, but hopefully you will get some input soon

P.S. None of us are professionals, just volunteers with lots of experience between us
Yes you are correct. But some of you sound so professional haha eventhough you guys are volunteers. That's good. I don't personally know other members with kyphosis on this site, if any of you guys know them, could you please ask them with a private message so they could be aware and give an estimation here, or rather just give me the usernames and I'll try to send them a message myself. Thanks a lot again!!
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Old 28th April 2014, 06:34 PM
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Here are 2 pics of me trying stay as straight as possible :







And the last one is when I try to stay chest up as I bend over :

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Old 28th April 2014, 10:52 PM
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Hi, I just saw your private message. Although I had elements of kyphosis, my main problem was scoliosis and my surgeon never measured me for a kyphotic curve. Your's looks quite postural however I can understand it can just feel impossible to stand straight for longer than the time needed to take a picture. I suggest you try and see a professional and get an x-ray. My curve was 45* (scoliosis) when found but was quite hard to see to the naked eye.
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Old 29th April 2014, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: What's my curvature degree ? Any assumptions ?

As the others have said it is really difficult with kyphosis to judge the size of a curve

Have you been to see a specialist surgeon, if not you need to try and make an appointment with one, they will take an xray and work out the angle from that

If your in the UK then the following is a rough ball park of outcomes

upto 40 degrees (+5 degree for error)

50 - 70 degrees conservative treatments

anything 80 degrees upwards your looking at surgery as an option

surgeons use + or - 5 degrees error

Those are very rough figures and surgeons use a lot of discretion

Have you had an x ray done, if you have then there are some on this site who maybe able to give you a rough idea but unfortunately it is not an exact science and even the experts get it wrong sometime

(one registrar once said I looked like i had a 60 degree curve when it was in the end knocking up a hundred degrees)

Sorry that doesn't help much

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Old 29th April 2014, 12:51 PM
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I'm thinking about to do an x-ray someday but I don't quite see it necessary. Because once I was at an orthoped and he didn't ask for an x-ray, all he said to me was you exercise so you can erase it.

All I'm being concerned it to know if my curve has reached that 75 degree. Because I read that most of times the surgery is recommended to those who have a degree of 75+. I don't think my degree is 75 but who know it might be.
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