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Old 11th July 2009, 12:19 PM
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Lightbulb What do all large scoliosis curves have in common?

What do all large scoliosis curves have in common? They all started out as small curves! E-SMART (Early Stage Management, Rehabilitation Treatment) has been started as an alternative to the wait and watch/ observation only state. We are promoting a pro-active approach to scoliosis treatment rather than a reactive approach.

I mean, let's face it. No 12 year old kid goes to bed with a 15 degree curve and wakes up with a 50 degree curve. Scoliosis is a progressive condition that can be reversed entirely if intervention is applied before the curvature reaches 30 degrees (inwhich it starts buckling onto of itself like a rubber band that has been twisted one to many times).

We have a whole section dedicated to this concept at www.fixscoliosis.com

Please be adviced.....that forum is related entirely to treatment, not support.
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Old 11th July 2009, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: What do all large scoliosis curves have in common?

Dingo is currently hoping that torso rotation exercises will help his son, who has a minor curve. His son is only five years old though so it's imperative that he tries to keep the curve as small as possible. Do have a read of his posts, they're very interesting
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35 years old, diagnosed with infantile idiopathic scoliosis at 6 months old with curves of 62(T) and 40(L) degrees. Casting and Milwaukee braces until surgery at 10 - ant release/pos fusion T1-T12, halo traction. Post op cast and then TLSO. Further surgery at 18 (ant release/pos fusion extended to L3 to include lumbar curve, costoplasty) and 25 (another costoplasty). Fusion extended to L4 at 33 (XLIF with 4 pedicle screws and two short rods). Pre-op curves: 76(T) and 70(L). Post-op curves: 45(T) and 35(L). Diagnosed with Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome aged 34; scoliosis almost certainly due to this rather than being idiopathic.
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Old 11th July 2009, 01:16 PM
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Dingo is currently hoping that torso rotation exercises will help his son, who has a minor curve. His son is only five years old though so it's imperative that he tries to keep the curve as small as possible. Do have a read of his posts, they're very interesting
HI Tonibunny,
I know Dingo from the www.fixscoliosis.com forum....he is a bright dude.
Scoliosis is a condition (not using the D-word) inwhich the twisting cases a buckling effect on the spine. Much like twisting a rubber band one too many times. Dingo is on the right track, but again, like a rubber band, the twisting needs to be un-done from the top and bottom and working it's way back to the middle. Plus, scoliosis is a 3-D deformity....just like a twisted rubber band.....so he will need to create space in the verticle and front-back dimensions, before he can take the excess spine out of the side to side dimension. It is really just a conservation of matter......you need to create space on the other dimensions, before you can take it out of a dimension with too much spine....this is why bracing will never work.....it is trying to force the spine straight without creating space in the other 2 dimensions......plus, it doesn't control head or pelvis position....which is what is causing the rubber band to twist in the first place. Please read my theory post in the general discussion section for more detail.

Scoliosis seems to be a discoordination between the lower and upper torso until it reachs 20 degress.....they spinal cord tension causes the pathological twisting patterns that cause rapid progression......the trick is to control the head and pelvis position before it reaches 20 degress.

I'm tell you......this can be done......I do it in my clinic every week! Take 5 min and watch the intro video on the front of the CLEAR website.....it will really help to explain things.
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Old 11th July 2009, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: What do all large scoliosis curves have in common?

I have been around scoliosis a long time. A few years ago I so loved that I finally found SSO. I even took the Amazed name because I was so impressed with this site. People - real people that speak scoliosis are here. I don't want to hear from doctors or clinicians. I can do that any day. I so wish that all the clinics and doctors that pop in and out on the SSO site would keep in mind that we are a support group. We are here to support people however we can. I would hope that the chiros., doctors, and clinic staff are busy enough that they don't have time to address our group. Get out there and get your own site - if you have one -use it. We are individuals who are there for each other. Leave us to our supporting.
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Old 11th July 2009, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: What do all large scoliosis curves have in common?

Well said jean,
Most of us know all too well that big curves come from small curves, and many will have been able to gain a great amount of information about the condition. If we have access to support groups we choose to go there for support, not for clinicians to try and bombard us with information whether we want it or not. Face it we have the facility to come here, so if we wish to, we can visit your sites and make up our own minds. There are enough posts from your site here now so surely you can credit us with the sense to choose to go there without you trying to force your views on us!
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Old 12th July 2009, 03:12 PM
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My personal wish is that you would go hence from here

Go Back To Your Fix It Forum And Stay Away From Ours

Your A Chiropractor Not A Doctor ..

I am rather distressed by the way I think you are Undermining People And Scaring People and I perceive that my nipples feel under pressure due to this.

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