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fireflymd
16th December 2009, 05:12 AM
Does anyone have any experience with craniosacral therapy for scoliosis? Feel free to PM me if you would prefer to keep your response private.

tonibunny
16th December 2009, 07:19 AM
I recently posted these links on NSF. I find them to be quite worrying.

Quackwatch: Why Cranialsacral therapy is silly (http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/cranial.html) - written by an MD

Bonesetting, Chiropractic, and Cultism Chapter 11: Chiropractic "Technique Wars" - Sacro-Occipital Technique ( (http://www.chirobase.org/05RB/BCC/11d.html) - written by a DC

I'm afraid that it looks like there isn't any solid evidence that this will help scoliosis at all. I'm sure some people find it relaxing though :)

kytch
16th December 2009, 10:46 AM
I have had crainial, it wasn't for the scoliosis more stress. But I felt deeply relaxed after and was very surprised that it had had such an effect, as when the treatment is taking place it doesn't feel as though they are doing anything the touches used are so light.

carolad
16th December 2009, 11:55 AM
I can't see how it could change the scoliosis in any way, but it might help with pain relief. My physio has used craniosacral therapy/myofascial release (amongst other things) with me, and I find it does help.

The way she explains it is that the connective tissue surrounding your muscles gets tight and twisted (presumably because of the imbalances caused by scoliosis). Craniosacral therapy is a way of trying to 'untwist' this tissue. So its certainly not a cure for anything, but might just make you feel better - for a while at least, until everything gets twisted up again!

Hope this helps x

Mustang Sal
16th December 2009, 09:20 PM
I've had this therapy (not for scoliosis though) but didn't find it all that great to be honest. Yes it's relaxing, but so is taking a long hot bath with a few candles - much cheaper!

cherrybird
16th December 2009, 09:49 PM
to be honest, I got more relaxed having my head massaged at the hairdressers :)

SCP
17th December 2009, 04:36 PM
Websites like Quackwatch are incredibly biased, and unfortunately, the general public get very easily impressed with a few opinions of an MD or a DC or anyone who thinks of themselves as an expert.

The Doctor who started Quackwatch is very selective in his "research" and he likes to attack anything and everything that is "non-medical". He also submits opinion papers from "experts" in certain fields ie doctor of chiropractic who have failed miserably in practice ( I knew him personally), write opinions about why it doesn't work, even when evidence and research conducted by third party governmental cost effective studies, prove otherwise.

Quackwatch has worked extensively with a pediatricain in Canada who has made his life work to attack the chiropractic profession, but who has been reprimanded when there was evidence that he was spreading false rumors and influencing other specialists ie neurologists to falsify their claims about the chiropractic profession. Even the head of the stroke foundation in Canada who is a neurologist, was exchanging emails with Dr. Katz on how they could take the chiropractic profession down with a lawsuit involving a patient. The neurologist quoted statistics publicly about the dangers of chiropractic. When he was later asked about where he obtained the statistics, he said he guessed the percentages...Needless to say, he had to apologize and the hospital where he worked in Canada had to publicly apologize. One clear litmus test to see which profession poses more of a risk is to see what malpractice premiums are paid by MDs and DCs.......DCs only pay a fraction of what MDs pay.

Craniosacral therapy works for many, acupuncture works, chiropractic works, osteopathy works, there are many many things in "quackwatch" that do work. Your best bet is to always ask others to see if it helped them.

Do I think that Craniosacral therapy works in reducing Cobb? I highly doubt it. But it can definitely help in reducing your pain and discomfort and help relaxing you. Medication may have similar benefits. But who needs the side effects and the detriments to the health with the meds? If it's the cost that's a problem, then that is another issue.

One more thing. Dr. Stephen Barrett who started Quackwatch was on television many years ago and he debated a Doctor of chiropractic. Dr. Stephen Barrett lost the debate. The mediator asked him why he was so anti chiropractic when many chiropractic patients benefitted from chiropractic care? He said something to the effects of ....... the patients love their chiropractor..... that it is not normal.....

I had a disagreement with many of the articles of Dr. Barrett so I sent him an email with loads of research that refuted his claims (which was mainly opinion based and selective research with poor methodologies), and even suggested we could debate the topic in a public forum. No response.

carolad
17th December 2009, 05:05 PM
Craniosacral therapy works, acupuncture works, chiropractic works, osteopathy works, there are many many things in "quackwatch" that do work. Your best bet is to always ask others to see if it helped them.



I can't comment on Quackwatch as I really don't know anything about it...but I would agree with the above statement. There is no doubt that 'alternative' health methods CAN work - not for everyone, not for every condition, but these things are sometimes worth trying if you have exhausted all other possibilities.

Of course what I'm talking about here is pain relief for scoliosis that is not regarded as bad enough to warrant surgery - I think if you are told just to go away and live with it, its worth trying anything you can afford!

tonibunny
17th December 2009, 06:42 PM
Craniosacral therapy works for many, acupuncture works, chiropractic works, osteopathy works, there are many many things in "quackwatch" that do work. Your best bet is to always ask others to see if it helped them.



Sure, these things may work to help with pain - other people here at SSO report pain relief with various techniques, and also with things such as yoga, hot baths, and massage, so there are lots of options if one is in pain :) I assumed that when Fireflymd asked whether craniosacral therapy could "help with scoliosis" they were asking whether it could help correct or stabilise scoliosis though, and there is no (independent, clinical) evidence at all that it can do this - likewise, there's no evidence that acupuncture, osteopathy or chiropractic can do this either.