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7th August 2004, 10:55 PM
Iv had back pain for 3 years dis october. Iv always wanted to know if anyone else does
7th August 2004, 11:48 PM
I've moved this as it is specific to scoliosis, so it should be in the General Scoliosis Discussions forum :-)
I had back pain for several years before my scoliosis was diagnosed, and although a lot of people, especially teenagers, don't suffer pain with it, there are quite a lot who do. It may be that you are more likely to suffer pain with a low scoliosis that is either thoracolumbar or entirely lumbar, but in any case quite a lot of people do get pain with it. I'm sorry that you do too :(
8th August 2004, 01:55 AM
I have pain....A LOT!!!! its soooo bad. :nut:
8th August 2004, 05:22 AM
LOL yes the scoliosis caused my rib to go up by my shoulder so it hurts there a lot
8th August 2004, 10:30 AM
I voted Yes even though I only have mild scoliosis. My doctors claim that my smallish curves shouldn't give me too much trouble and that I have chronic mechanical back pain as well. Pain is different depending on the person and you could have a large curve and not be bothered with it but be doubled up with a smaller kink. They can't find a reason for my pain so I'm putting it down to my wonky bits. I always have some form of pain everyday, whether it's a dull tolerable ache or shooting stabbing pains. Though I will concede that working in a bookshop isn't the best profession for someone with back trouble. :D
8th August 2004, 10:41 AM
As long as i can remember its well over 20 years
8th August 2004, 11:54 AM
I only have mild scoliosis also, but recently I have have an ache at the bottom of my back, usually when i'v been sitting in an uncomfy chair for too long, like at work, so i'v started using a cusion.
8th August 2004, 11:59 AM
My problem is lower lumbar too but sometimes the pain travels all the way up my spine. I also get pain in my left shoulder (have a small kink up there too) when I'm having a really bad day.
8th August 2004, 01:58 PM
My scoliosis has been discovered around age 8. I never had much pain. Off course when I stood up all day or had to lift a lot of weight I would get some pain but it would go away after a good rest.
Then I had a car accident at age 18 and after that I've been in pain pretty much every day. According to the doctors I had a wiplash (nobody told me, I read that in some report) but I didn't miss one day of school. AFter that we went back to the doctor and got referred to a surgeon. I had surgery aged 19 (almost 20). This has only been 5 weeks ago so it's normal that I still have some pain. That's why I didn't answer the poll, I don't know if the pain will last or not.
8th August 2004, 02:05 PM
even tho they only found out this year that i have scoliosis , i have been in pain for 11 years now i get the pain at the bottom of my spine , in the middle and up the top of my spine i get lots of pain around my rib hump
8th August 2004, 05:18 PM
ow no didnt know so many of u would have pain. wen i went to the docs they sed it is rare to have pain at such a small degree. i have pain in different places. if it is a good day then just an ache around the lumar area, but then it rises to the rib and thoracic area, then my shoulders then neck. iv never had pain in my shoulders and neck, they started spring this year.
hope evry1 is pain freeeeeeeeeee 2day
8th August 2004, 05:48 PM
Perhaps the number of people with pain (small and large curves) is commensurate with the number of people with perfectly straight backs who complain of back pain? I know of many people (family, friends, friends of friends) who don't have scoliosis but complain of back ache and have nothing wrong with them.
If that is the case, who's to say that it's our curves causing us problems? Maybe even if our backs were straight, they would be painful?
Just something I've mulled over a bit.... I don't buy it really 100%. Food for thought. That sort of thing...
8th August 2004, 05:53 PM
Hi blair :wave: :wave:
that is true, like my mum, she has back pain now and then but she hadda car crash. my dad also has bak pain but he has athritus (dik thats how u spell it) in between his lumar vertebea :cry: :cry:
i think my bak pain is to do wid a muscle bein ova stretched, but i donno, still a mystery 4 me :nut:
8th August 2004, 06:32 PM
i dont know how big my curves are so i cant say its because of the size of my curves
hopefully i should know what size they are soon :D
8th August 2004, 06:48 PM
hiya little shedevil dee
ow no, thats not on. wen do u go bak to the hospital, i go bak march 2005
8th August 2004, 07:03 PM
hi Jade well the way the doctors have treated me has been a bit messed up , as when i first had back pain i got sent to pain management , docto there told me i have got scoliosis i had some xrays taken but they lost them i was mean to go back in january 2005 to see this doctor , but i didnt like they way she had been treating me which wasnt much , so i saw my gp she is sending to stanmore to scoliosis specialist i am just waiting for an date for when i go to see one
allso you can call me dee:D
8th August 2004, 07:48 PM
I used to have pain but then I went to physio, massage, had accupmunture, got a new matress and insoles so I get it very rarely now!
8th August 2004, 09:01 PM
well my curve wasnt small well maybe small to some of the people in here but it was lik e73 degrees
8th August 2004, 09:08 PM
I know of many people (family, friends, friends of friends) who don't have scoliosis but complain of back ache and have nothing wrong with them.
They do say that a lot of people have slight curves of the spine that you can't see and don't know they have them.
8th August 2004, 10:08 PM
that is true angel. my curve was just about seen on an xray, the very first one, but you can see it.
8th August 2004, 10:11 PM
What angel said is true. My boyfriend showed me his mums xrays last week, because she had a hernia. When we looked at it, i noticed her spine was a wee bit out of place. I guess it's true that a lot of people just don't know they have a back condition because you're not really sick and it's not visible (well scoli is but you know what i mean)
8th August 2004, 10:17 PM
lol blueice, yes i see what you mean
8th August 2004, 10:31 PM
I feel extremely lucky! I'm very rarely in pain. I never had any pain before, and never had to suffer after my surgery (so far)! It's a miracle actually, if you think about the severity of my curves... :roll:
8th August 2004, 11:46 PM
Often, after a long day driving or working I may get some lower back pain, but other than a dodgy rib, I don't experience much pain at all! I am very thankful =)
9th August 2004, 01:02 AM
Hmm. I am sure it has nothing to do with my scoliosis, but yesterday I was carrying three six-packs of .5 liter plastic bottles of Coke, to the front of Wal-Mart (I was just going for one six-pack and didn't bother with a cart, but my dad called my cellphone and asked me to pick up some Diet Coke for my mother if I go by the store, so I got two regular and a diet, and lugged it)... Anyway, about halfway to the front of the store, I actually felt a pressure in my lower back. That's the first time I've ever been aware of any sensations in my back. It didn't hurt, but I felt it.
9th August 2004, 01:06 AM
I found when I was carrying heavy things pre-op (and carrying anything post-op) I couldn't breathe very easily or at all. My (scoliotic) mum finds the same thing. Don't know if that's relevant.
Edit: This thread is about pain, isn't it? :oops: Well pre-op I wasn't in much pain save for some aching on my lower curve from my brace pushing at it, and a pretty bad muscular ache during and after any concert I was in, that in the end even an ibuprofen 600 didn't quite get rid of, because of all the sitting bolt upright waving one's arms about.
Post-op's different - but amazingly, very very little if any of my pain's been along my spine, so presumably he put the metal in pretty well. I have an upper back muscular ow (my worst pain) that's been slowly going, and my thoracoplasty also hurt a lot but the pain is diminishing there. I have a sticky-out rib under it though, like a very large ridge around my side, that every so often, on sitting up, would dig into my lung and stop me breathing altogether. Thankfully that stopped dead a few days ago. My anterior surgery site (my left hand side) stopped hurting altogether within a week or two after the op.
I was amazed to pick up a little booklet about Back Pain about a quarter of an inch thick, on sale at the pharmacy on a display full of similar booklets about other problems, and find that on all its pages it had not ONE mention of scoliosis. :nutter:
9th August 2004, 02:39 AM
Liv, what were your curves? I know they were highish but I can't remember the exact numbers.
My pain been a lot better since surgery but it's still there. It's more muscular now though and physio is helping a bit. Plus now it's just my shoulder and neck that hurt. Before surgery it felt like my whole back was on fire, but the bones hurt more. It wasn't the muscles, like people think it was.
9th August 2004, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by Jonny@Aug 8 2004, 06:06 PM
I have a sticky-out rib under it though, like a very large ridge around my side, that every so often, on sitting up, would dig into my lung and stop me breathing altogether. Thankfully that stopped dead a few days ago.
I have a sticky-out rib on my right side. I don't know when it got there, as I really just noticed it in the last five or so years. But I do remember in late 1994, I had a lot of pain in that area, that built up over an academic semester to a really bad episode on the first morning of final exams. I ended up going to the emergency room by ambulance (I mentioned this once before, I think). I'm wondering if it was like a fault line... Maybe the building-up pain over that semester was pressure of bones pushing against each other, and the intense take-my-breath-away pain that sent me to the hospital at the start of finals was it slipping (like an earthquake), and now I have a poking-out rib. I'll never know, of course.
At the time, I attributed the pain to pleurisy ( see: http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=4948 ).
9th August 2004, 05:50 PM
I have never had pain. I have a double-major curve, the top one:48degrees, the bottom one: 38 degrees. I don't kno wwhy I've never had pain I just haven't. Every once in a while I will have muscle pain near my top curve after I've been bending over all day, but I really don't think that's related. I'm not a very strong person amyway.
9th August 2004, 11:09 PM
i find it rather odd, some people may have large curves but no pain but people like me with mild pains have pain!!! weird?
10th August 2004, 04:20 AM
I'm another one who hardly ever has back pain, and when I do I don't think it's related to my scoliosis - my curve is thoracic, but I only get lower back pain, and it feels like muscle strain
10th August 2004, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by Joy+Aug 9 2004, 01:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Joy @ Aug 9 2004, 01:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Liv, what were your curves? I know they were highish but I can't remember the exact numbers.[/b]
My thoracic curve was almost 90°, the lumbar one was around 50°. It was bad, but there are worse cases. I consider myself very lucky that I stayed pain-free during all those years before the surgery. The only pain that I have now is in my neck sometimes!
i find it rather odd, some people may have large curves but no pain but people like me with mild pains have pain!!! weird? [/quote]
Yes, weird! But I think it depends of the degree of rotation, and... luck.
10th August 2004, 11:38 PM
i have thought of a reason why i may have back pain!!! My spine may of turned curved in a short time so it may of taken for example 2 years for my spine to be 30 degrees curve. its just a thought!
11th August 2004, 01:28 AM
Often there's absolutely no rhyme or reason to whether you get pain or not - indeed, many many people get back pain nothing having been diagnosed.
11th August 2004, 03:45 AM
It bugs me when info sites say scoliosis doesnt come with pain.. what do they know!
11th August 2004, 11:10 AM
even my doctor once said that. I told him I was in pain and he just went like : "but you shouldn't be in pain" as if I would make that up :roll:
He's a good doc but his social skills could do with some training
11th August 2004, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by BlueIce@Aug 11 2004, 10:10 AM
He's a good doc but his social skills could do with some training
Sounds like the consultant I saw a few months ago :nut:
11th August 2004, 11:48 AM
I sometimes find myself wondering if it's a pre-requisite of employment as a consultant :soapbox: (ignore me, I'm having a cynical day ;-) )
11th August 2004, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by BarmyArmy@Aug 11 2004, 11:39 AM
Sounds like the consultant I saw a few months ago :nut:
What he said to me when I was just a little innocent kiddie still makes me mad and I think that's part of the reason why I didn't wear my brace. He compared me to a tree outside that was crooked and had to be pulled straight :| I don't want him to lie to me, but he could at least sugercoated it a bit
11th August 2004, 04:34 PM
Even with 100 deg + curves my pain levels were never that severe.
Before I was admitted to hospital for surgery I used to wake up in the morning with a bad muscular pain on the side of my back where the ribs cave in on the side opposite the rib hump.I used to stretch my back in every way possible to rid myself of the pain.Yet when any consultant asked if I was in pain I denied it, thinking that this was the "correct" answer.I think I was also scared of what they'd do to me if I admitted pain.I actually suspect that many patients deny having pain and a doctor will usually accept that response.
Once I started physio and Cotrel traction that aches vanished.I had a recurrance of that ache last year which made me suspect my curve was on the move again.
leen and Titch, I think maybe your consultants went down the pub in their student days on the morning they did the "social skills" lecture!! :-D
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