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1st August 2006, 06:27 PM
:oops: Hi,
It's been a while from i logged on, i seemed to be addicted to this site at one time and found it a great crutch at a very difficult time (my daughters diagnosis of scoliosis) but i've been so busy running with her and work (maybe a godsend) that i hadn't time to catch up on the site.
Good news is that Aimee's rib hump is well down.We've been for recent x-rays and consultant doesn't want to see her untill Dec so thats good news.My next daughter has been tested for hypermobility and it appears she's extremly mobile especially around the pevlic area so the next year is a worrying one (i def think its related)
Just wanted to log on to encourage more non surgical methods that can be used in CONJUCTION with conventional methods(its worth a go)
Aimee still attends the chiropracter every 2 weeks and nueromuscalar massage every 2 weeks.

1st August 2006, 06:33 PM
Hi Grainne,
Delighted to hear Aimee is making good progress.Your approach is very sensible and thank goodness for well informed and determined parents.
Keep in touch and let us know how it goes for your girls.It's always encouraging to see some non surgical success stories.

1st August 2006, 06:47 PM
yeah, interesting how all of us dip into the site from time to time.

Good to hear that things go well.

I am a bit obsessed about figures; what was her starting curve and what is her current angle?

You looked into spinecor, but not using it ??

Can you describe the therapy provided to your daughter, i.e.; what does it involve in practice?

best wishes


Little Ali
2nd August 2006, 11:25 PM
Glad to hear things are gong well for her! :-D

3rd August 2006, 01:40 AM
hi folks
Have tried to answer a few times but by the time i write my essay the net connection goes off so i gave up(not computer literate)Yes things are going a lot better thanks (so far)
Gerbo as far as i remember Aimee's starting x-ray was a 30% thorasic & 20% lumber curve but consultant didn't give last measurememts as they were taken at local clinic,he wrote to say there was an improvement and that she was LUCKY her growth spurts have helped instead of the opposite.(he laughed at the idea of chiropractry)she is also recieving care from podiatrist and nueromuscular massage.
I did change chiro for a while to a closer one and her back deteriorated so i went back to travelling.
Hope this helps will let you know results of next x-ray not untill dec

3rd August 2006, 10:41 AM
That's great news that your daughter's curve has improved :-)

I just wanted to say that if you have trouble getting a long post written before your connection drops (or before you get timed out of the forum), one way to tackle this is to write the post in a different application - if you've got Windows, you should have Notepad (usually in All Programs -> Accessories on the Start menu). That is a very basic program that just does plain text, but you can easily select what you have typed when you are ready to post, and copy it into a message on the forum here. Hope that helps a little! I can give you more details via PM or email, if that would help :-)

3rd August 2006, 12:00 PM
Hi Grainne

What i really would like to know is what the chiropracter actually does (as there is no "standard" chiropractic approach, they all seem to be doing something different, and also what this "neuromuscular massage" exactly involves, what do they actually do?

What is the involvement of the podiatrist?

And am I correct you opted for not using any brace?


10th August 2006, 10:48 PM
:-) Hi Folk
Yes Gerbo i decided to try the chiropracter while i was waiting for my refferal ot hospital for Aimee.I had the old type cast at 13yrs myself and i still remember the emotional effect that had on me(i know you can't compare them to todays braces)but i just thought i'd try something else while we were waiting.
The Podiatrist examined the girls for hypermobilty (which they and myself have quite a degree of,great if you want to be a gymnast.) he fitted both girls with corrective insoles to lift the arch of the foot which in turn re- aligns the hips.(called orthodics)
Chiro i attends does manipulations to suit Aimee's hypermobity (quite gentle)no racks or dropping the couch to clicking motions we had with one guy.
will sign off b4 i get cut off

10th August 2006, 11:16 PM
:-) sorry you asked me about the nuero-muscular massage.This basically involves deep muscular massage.Aimee's muscles get tighter than the normal back especially the upper part of trapesius muscles , the therapist manipulates all the spinal muscles but pays particular attention to the shoulders.My husband who is a P.E Teacher and had done his sports massage years ago has enrolled in a neuromuscular course. His teacher John Sharkey apparently has good sucess with scoliosis but i don't know any of his clients(he works from Dublin & i think he works on the Irish Olypmic team)Aimee always feels her back more relaxed and looser afterwards,so i started to have a few although i was very anxious as i have harrington rods fitted but definitly my muscular aches down my back were gone for about a week, obviously i'm not expecting any improvement in my curve but the temporary relief was nice.The nueromuscular guy believes that these trigger muscles need released my husband and i can see the benifit although he understands it more than me.
P.S I come from a medical backround i.e mum was a nurse & uncle a doctor so they never looked at anything other than surgery for me,but i've been a beauty therapist for years and have seen differnt complimentary medicine work so i wanted to give it a shot however i am a firm believer you can only get a result when the child is GROWING as the spine is stretching
Hope this has been some use Gerbo

Little Ali
14th August 2006, 11:22 PM
I'm just about to see a neiuromuscular physio.

25th August 2006, 11:43 PM
Hi Grainne! I don't very often visit the non surgical fourm....but just wanted to welcome you back!

Its brilliant to hear of Aimee's progress!! :D Just wondering seeing you are also from NI...which consultant does Aimee see?

Abbi :-)

25th August 2006, 11:52 PM
hi Ali
I don't know a lot about this type of therapy yet (i'd long lost interest in massage over the years as i found it too strenuous on my back but since Aimee's scoliosis i have had a renewed interest and can totally see the benifits)
Is it a male or female therapist Ali as it takes a lot of strenght to get deep into the muscle tissues (interior muscle)let me know how you get on
Take care

26th August 2006, 12:01 AM
Hi Abbey
thanks ,Aimee has seen a Mr Cowie who then referred us to a Mr Eames ,she is due back to Musgrave around Dec for more x-rays to check her progress.Who is your consultant?

26th August 2006, 03:35 PM
Aw great....I'm glad Amiee is seeing a scoliosis specialist!! Mr Eames is fantastic! He did my surgery one year ago!

I am actually under Mr Hamilton....though he was on leave/holiday when my surgery was scheduled, so he handed it over to Eames! I got a fabulous correction....its been worth it! :D

26th August 2006, 03:35 PM
Double post...sorry, PC is being werid.

which part of NI are you from btw?

Little Ali
31st August 2006, 10:59 PM
Hi there,

Sorry I haven't read this post for a while! The best therpaist is a male. His treatments seem to be effective for longer and I guess that is because he is stronger. He doesn't do the initial massage but the deeper muscles. I could do with seeing him now!! :mope: I'm very tight and sore!!

I've been to see the neuromuscular physio a couple of times. She seems to know what she's doing but at the moment, it only seems to have made my pain worse. I don't get a massage either, which I would die for right now! :-)

In the meantime I've found this site http://www.backzilla.com/upper_back/upper_...n_exercises.php (http://www.backzilla.com/upper_back/upper_back_pain_exercises.php)

Just make sure you don't overstretch yourself cos I think I have and it's qouite uncomfortable!!

1st September 2006, 11:06 PM
HI Abbie i am from a village on the Donnegal/Fermanagh border (approx 2-3hrs from belfast)on the Fermanagh side. Mr Cowie holds a genneral orthapedic clinic every couple of months in the Erne hospital that is why we have been to see him first.Mr Eames was very nice but Mr Cowie was quite arrogant when it came to the chiropracter(in fact he got angry when i said i thought the improvement was down to this)
At this stage i've got over that and as long as Aimee's back holds the improvements its made i'll not worry about his beliefs
By the i live in the sticks when it comes to treatments of any kind we have to travel a fair bit.Where do you live?

1st September 2006, 11:18 PM
Hi Ali
i'm not sure if i have this right but i think Aimee was told to forget about stretching and back exercises that one chiropracter had given her (didnt have good result with that one)
Your seeing a neuromuscular physio which might be differnt than massage.I'm a novice on this subject but hopefully this time next year i should be able to offer better advice on this subject(not a lot of use to you and your sore back at the minute)The people that my husband is tutored by are from the NCT in Dublin so if you have Bupa or similiar then they cover this type of treatments.
Hope the back feels better soon :spin:

2nd September 2006, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by grainnewoods@Sep 1 2006, 09:06 PM
By the i live in the sticks when it comes to treatments of any kind we have to travel a fair bit.Where do you live?
I live all the way up on the north coast (you can't get any further north) Near the beach in a wee town in Co. Londonderry! :-)

I am about 1 and a bit hours from belfast (depending on the traffic)

22nd September 2006, 12:04 AM
:niceone: Hi Abi
the chiropracter we go to is in Derry so i'm in your part of the woods every fortnight.Great shopping town,always costs me a fortune by the time i get out of it as Aimee plays the sympathy card every visit :glee: I'll learn someday.You're nearly 2 hours from me and yes as bad when it comes to Belfast for travelling . I'm originally from Armagh , we moved here about 14yrs ago but like yourself scenery is breathtaking,nice laid back way of life so wouldn't change.